Full Contact: HKL vs. Mei Ah vs. Mei Ah (Rem) + R2DE vs. HKL

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Full Contact: HKL vs. Mei Ah vs. Mei Ah (Rem) + R2DE vs. HKL

Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 03:41

HKL (0.01.08 )
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MEI AH (original)
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MEI AH (remastered)
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HKL (0.04.06)
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MEI AH (original)
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MEI AH (remastered)
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HKL (0.06.40)
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MEI AH (original)
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MEI AH (remastered)
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HKL (0.09.07)
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MEI AH (original)
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MEI AH (remastered)
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HKL (1.28.56)
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MEI AH (original)
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MEI AH (remastered)
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Unread post by thelostdragon » 27 May 2006, 11:21

Mark, add MeiAh in the thread's title.

HKL is clearly the winner, although it seems to be horizontally squished a bit.
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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 May 2006, 11:29

Nope, it's the caps that are screwed-up (720x450).
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Unread post by HungFist » 27 May 2006, 11:32

Can someone confirm the dutch release has the original soundtrack (unlike HKL, Mei Ah remaster, Columbia...)? Or is the old Mei Ah the only one to include it?

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Unread post by thelostdragon » 27 May 2006, 11:35

Why would Mark post messed up caps?

Hung, are you referring to the songs that are in the film or the sound effects?
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 11:35

You're right my caps are slightly different in size.

How do you get the correct size, Tom?

Is it the same for all anamorphic films regardless of ratio?
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 11:36

thelostdragon wrote:Why would Mark post messed up caps?
Because I'm a tech idiot.
Hung, are you referring to the songs that are in the film or the sound effects?
Songs and score.
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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 May 2006, 11:36

@LD:
I don't know. All I know is that 720x450 is not 16/9.
16/9 is 720x404 or 720x405.

Maybe he inverted the 5 and the 0. :lol:
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Unread post by HungFist » 27 May 2006, 11:41

So, are my caps correct? (because I'm a tech idiot, too)

And I was referring to music

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Unread post by thelostdragon » 27 May 2006, 11:46

So which songs are not correct in the HKL? The Alan Tam song sure is meant to be there, right? (The World Has Gone Insane).
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 11:50

The music was changed for the HK release because of rights issues with Extreme. Originally more of their songs were used (and you can hear them in the HKL instead of Cantopop). Alan Tam's song is in both versions. Teddy Robin Kwan's score is either different or missing - I can't remember which? But the guitar riffs are gone on the HKL (this track was likely assembled before the score's completion).
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 11:53

I can't fix the caps for this film to correct size... but I think I figured out the problem and will do better next time. The HKL image isn't squashed or squeezed on disc in any way in case anyone was unsure. Just use my caps to compare quality for now.
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Unread post by thelostdragon » 27 May 2006, 11:54

Thanks Mark.

So where do I get the version that has all the correct music in it?

Also, is there a version out there that has the eyeball scene? I don't know where I have seen it, but I remember that it was years ago when I saw a screenshot or maybe even a trailer with Anthony Wong coming out of the house with an eyeball on a spoon.
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Unread post by HungFist » 27 May 2006, 12:29

The original Mei Ah (which is out of print, I think) has the "original" soundtrack. I remember someone saying the Dutch release has it too, but I can't get a confirmation. The PQ is about the same as HKL (there's a comparison at dvdheaven).

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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 13:29

thelostdragon wrote:Also, is there a version out there that has the eyeball scene? I don't know where I have seen it, but I remember that it was years ago when I saw a screenshot or maybe even a trailer with Anthony Wong coming out of the house with an eyeball on a spoon.
No, Golden Princess made Ringo Lam cut the scene out before the film's HK release as they felt it was too extreme and would certainly have given them a Cat-III. As it stood cuts still had to be made to gain a theatrical II rating. The Mei Ah DVD is actually the Cat-III studio-approved edit, not director's cut, despite the inaccurate lower rating on the cover. The HKL DVD is the same as this, only the music is different.
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 13:31

HungFist wrote:So, are my caps correct? (because I'm a tech idiot, too)
No. Yours are 720x540.

This means mine are too tall and yours too fat. :lol:

Split the difference...
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Unread post by Markgway » 27 May 2006, 13:56

One thing I forgot to mention.

The English dub on the HKL has the theatrical music score/songs.
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Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 27 May 2006, 13:57

No contest, HKL wins.

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Unread post by bradavon » 27 May 2006, 14:04

We need to see the Remaster for it to be a fair comparison. Why are there black bars on the HKL captures?

Mark for christs sake use the fucking EDIT button. Everyone else manages to.
Markgway wrote:How do you get the correct size, Tom?
Open them in a photo program, resize them and reupload them. Most software will complain you're distorting the aspect ratio just ignore this.
Markgway wrote:I can't fix the caps for this film to correct size...
Yes you can. I'll fix them. It will only take 2-3 minutes.
HungFist wrote:So, are my caps correct? (because I'm a tech idiot, too)
Good question. I don't know as the Old DVD isn't anamorphic so should be a 4:3 not 16:9 ratio. Actually yes they look wrong as the ratio of the actual film doesn't look 1.85/1.78:1.

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I don't know. All I know is that 720x450 is not 16/9.
16/9 is 720x404 or 720x405.
We should stick to 404 as that's what most here seem to be using.

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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 May 2006, 14:14

@Mark:
HungFist's caps are 720x540, which is the CORRECT size for a 4/3 ratio. :)

4/3 = 720x540.
16/9 = 720x404.
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Unread post by bradavon » 27 May 2006, 16:02

Good, both are correct now. What about the 2.35:1 ratio? That's not 16:9. Speaking of 2.35:1 I've often wondered:

1.78:1 is 16:9 but what is 2.35:1?

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Unread post by grim_tales » 27 May 2006, 16:03

21/9 maybe? :?

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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 May 2006, 16:19

It's 235:100. :lol:

No need to try and simplify it.
21/9 is 2:33:1.
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Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 27 May 2006, 16:28

720*404 is fine for 2.35:1 (scope) movies, unless you want to crop out the black bars.

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