Heart of Dragon R2UK vs R1 vs R0 vs R2FR

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Heart of Dragon R2UK vs R1 vs R0 vs R2FR

Unread post by tom2681 » 24 May 2006, 00:17

Note: both the HKL and the FOX discs feature dubtitles.

HKL:
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FOX:
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R2FR:
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Universe:
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HKL:
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FOX:
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R2FR:
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Universe:
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On the top-right part of the picture, the ceiling is completely blurry on the FOX = Low bitrate.
The Seven Sept transfer doesn't have the FOX's green/yellow tint and isn't as grainy as the HKL.

HKL:
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FOX:
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R2FR:
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Universe:
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HKL picture looks less yellowish.

HKL:
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FOX:
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R2FR:
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Universe:
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This is the Heart of The Problem:
Jackie comes up to Dick Wei and yells "Don't try to stop me !".
Dick Wei answers:
HKL: "I'll kill you !"
FOX: "I'm going to rip out your heart !"

According to Bey Logan, this is what Dick Wei actually says:
Bey: "I'm sorry but this is my job !"

YAY! The french subtitles are accurate.
"Je fais mon boulot" -> "It's my job." :D
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Unread post by Markgway » 24 May 2006, 00:30

I'd say the HKL wins on quality, but suffers slightly from pinkification. I never realised this had gone on so long. You only really notice in during comparisons.

I like (not) how they manage to turn Dick Wei from a professional to a mindless thug in one dubtitle. Brilliant! :roll:
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Unread post by thelostdragon » 24 May 2006, 00:32

Yeah, "Heart of Dragon" has always been suffering from a dilemma of mis-translations in the West.
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Unread post by EvaUnit02 » 24 May 2006, 10:14

More like Heart of the Engrish.
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Unread post by thelostdragon » 24 May 2006, 11:58

"Heart of Dragon" is not Engrish as far as I know. Dragon does not refer to the mythical creature, but to the name of Jackie's character. Like in "Heart of LD".
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Unread post by tom2681 » 24 May 2006, 12:20

I think it's exactly the opposite. :lol:

Heart of the Dragon: The dragon = Jackie Chan. -> Heart of Jackie's character.

Heart of Dragon: Dragon = Strong mythical creature. -> Someone in this movie has the heart of a dragon.

The use of "the" completely changes the meaning of the film IMO.
"The Dragon" refers to a character.
"Heart of Dragon" defines a character.
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Unread post by gasteropod » 24 May 2006, 14:36

Can I just point out that, even though you say the HKL has dubtitles, at least they don't subtitle when no one is even saying anything, unlike various Fox releases (like My Lucky Stars).

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Unread post by grim_tales » 24 May 2006, 14:39

According to Mark, the HKL "Heart of Dragon" is not word-for-word dubtitles, but based on dubtitles :) Eg in the subtitles one of the kids says "shit", in the dub he says "damn".
However Sammo is still referred to sometimes as "Danny" in the subs and not "Do-do".
At least Jackie isnt called TED.

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Unread post by HungFist » 24 May 2006, 15:02

HKL's soundtrack is really flat. Fox uses FS's 5.1 remix. How about Universe?

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Unread post by Markgway » 24 May 2006, 16:19

The most apt title would be HEART OF A DRAGON.

But now we're getting bogged down in semantics... 8)
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Unread post by bradavon » 24 May 2006, 20:28

Which set of dubtitles are worse?

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Unread post by tom2681 » 24 May 2006, 21:15

FOX dubtitles are bloody awful.
HKL dubtitles are almost acceptable.
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Unread post by chenlung » 26 Jul 2006, 01:43

Universe = Great remix and mostly accurate subtitles!

Couldn't help but notice the 'Redonetitlecardoverthecurrentone Syndrome' yet again on the Fox DVD.
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Unread post by Ivan Drago » 26 Jul 2006, 10:05

Yeah, that reminds me. The text on the title card of the Fox Magnificent Butcher is now white. Does anyone have the FS IVL and can tell me if that disc has the same problem?
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Unread post by chenlung » 26 Jul 2006, 13:54

IVL Magnificent Butcher is safe thankfully 8) .
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Captures! Glorious Captures!

Unread post by chenlung » 01 Nov 2006, 14:14

Hi Tom

Here are Universe (R0 Hong Kong) captures:

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%201.jpg
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%202.jpg
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%203.jpg
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%204.jpg

Here are the HKL ones that didn't match your Fox ones:

http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%202.jpg
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%203.jpg
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... 0-%204.jpg

It would seem Universe is more accurate than Bey as I can't hear an 'apology' in what Dick says (although I can't confirm) :lol: . The remix is more vibrant and other than that, it fails in other departments.

I think the upload feature is great! I can at least delete images that are obselete (to save space and bandwidth).

:lol:
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Unread post by tom2681 » 01 Nov 2006, 16:43

Here are the HKL ones that didn't match your Fox ones
You're a very annoying person, you know. :D

*Updating*
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Unread post by chenlung » 01 Nov 2006, 16:51

tom2681 wrote:
Here are the HKL ones that didn't match your Fox ones
You're a very annoying person, you know. :D

*Updating*
And you are a very incompetant person, you know :lol: .
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Unread post by grim_tales » 01 Nov 2006, 17:13

He says "This is my occupation" = "This is my job". :?

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Hmm...

Unread post by chenlung » 01 Nov 2006, 17:14

grim_tales wrote:He says "This is my occupation" = "This is my job". :?
Same thing :lol: !!! :wink:
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Unread post by BiscLimpkit » 01 Nov 2006, 22:14

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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 Feb 2008, 12:38

*Added caps from the french disc* (which uses a clean, sharp and progressive FS master and features proper subtitles).
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Unread post by chenlung » 27 Feb 2008, 12:50

What are the other specs of the French disc?
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Unread post by tom2681 » 27 Feb 2008, 13:33

Disc size: 6,04 gb.
Running time: 87:34 minutes (PAL).
1:778.1 progressive anamorphic transfer.

Sound:
2.0 french dub.
2.0 cantonese soundtrack (don't know whether it's a downmix).
5.1 cantonese soundtrack.

Removable french subs.

Extras:
Trailer for Heart of Dragon.
Trailer for Police Story, Project A, Battlecreek Brawl, Crime Story, My Lucky Stars, Fearless Hyena.
2 deleted fighting scenes (without the original sound).
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Re: Heart of Dragon R2UK vs R1 vs R0 vs R2FR

Unread post by Phantomlord » 28 Mar 2010, 16:40

So.. Any confirmation wheter the french dvd has the real monotrack or not?

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