Your Top 10 Favorite Flicks?

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 20 Feb 2007, 19:18

Ooohhh... a Back to the Future Marty McFly reference

(which could and maybe should also be in my top 10 list. Just watched pt2 this weekend. Great fun

Classic trilogy

)

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 20 Feb 2007, 19:39

grim_tales wrote:Daredevil DC was good though

The Director's Cut of Daredevil is equal to polishing a turd. You can do it and it might seem a little more clean and smell better, but it's still a big fat turd.

Mark Steven Johnson needs to stop making movies. Period.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 20 Feb 2007, 19:41

I thought it was OK but Spider-Man/Batman etc were much better..

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 20 Feb 2007, 19:46

Yi-Long wrote:[

They've only been doing OK, but their release of TYG, and especially their cutting it to pieces, didnt really sound like an improvement to me.
They did leave the original cut as an 'extra' on the 2nd disc, but still...

Well, I haven't actually seen them myself and wasn't aware of the cuts. My apologies.

I've never seen the american version of DM2 (Legend of the DM) and certainly dont intend to either. I once caught the first 5 minutes orso of FOL on TV and I was appaled.

I'm pretty sure most of the fight sequences were in tact, which is after all...the only real reason anyone goes to see a Jackie Chan flick.

I dont think the Spidey flicks are bad. They're very good. They have the right casting (apart from MJ, who turned from a voloptious sexbomb into a scrawny white trash redhead) and the the right tone. But since I've read the comics and know the story so well already, it was just nothing new to me. It captures the whole style of Spidey and the persona etc perfectly, but still...

My big problem with the films are that they don't take themselves seriously at all and the rules of the film change from one moment to the next. The first Spider-Man film I consider on the level of Batman & Robin. It's atrocious. The second one is mildly better, but still has the same meandering problems as the first. There's no underlying subtext to the films that give them any weight. They're light, campy, and lifeless.

I'm a big fan of John Byrne's Superman, but I dont really like the movies.

That would explain why, since writers have been trying to do away with the shit that Byrne inflicted on Superman for two decades. In 2005, they finally did it with Birthright, which is now considered proper canon in the comics, thereby erasing the horrid shit that Byrne forced upon readers in the late 80's. The only good to come of his run was that he changed Lex into a billionaire. But even that's still just a superficial change. He's still a mad scientist though, so the change is hardly worth noting.

The film Superman is based closer on the silver age Superman at the height of his powers. The films directed by Donner and Singer have weight, emotionality, and intelligence to back it up. Something that the Spider-Man films are sorely lacking.

Havent seen The Hulk yet. My sis-in-law has it... so I might borrow it one of these days.

It's truly excellent. The drama works...for me...and the action is simply incredible. Well worth your time.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 20 Feb 2007, 20:01

What did you expect the Spider-Man films to be?
Please don't lump them in with Batman and Robin. That was truly shite

You know its in trouble when Arnie takes one of his lines from "McBain" in the Simpsons, a character meant to take the piss out of him

McBain/Reiner Wolfcastle bursts out of ice statue to confront villains:

ICE TO SEE YOU!!! *BOOM*

Yi, who would you have cast as MJ?

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 20 Feb 2007, 20:08

grim_tales wrote:What did you expect the Spider-Man films to be?

Fun. Intelligent. Entertaining.

Y'know...like...good.

Please don't lump them in with Batman and Robin. That was truly shite
You know its in trouble when Arnie takes one of his lines from "McBain" in the Simpsons, a character meant to take the piss out of him

McBain/Reiner Wolfcastle bursts out of ice statue to confront villains:

ICE TO SEE YOU!!! *BOOM*

Yi, who would you have cast as MJ?

I'd much rather watch Arnie and Uma ham it up than I would watch William Dafoe's face be covered up in a god-damned Power Rangers outfit having the most banal and uninteresting conversation in the history of everything with a sedated Spidey on a roof-top.

Fault the Schumacher Batman films all you want, but at least they were enjoyable as campy nonsense. Raimi's films can't even achieve that.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Feb 2007, 20:21

Here's one I prepared earlier

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http://www.alexmccaffrey.com/topfilms.htm

In no particular order (not possible), except alphabetically:

1. Jean-Pierre Jeunet's: Amelie
2. Alejandro González Iñárritu's: Amores Perros
3. Francis Ford Coppola's: Apocalypse Now
4. Ridley Scott's: Blade Runner: Director's Cut
5. Ang Lee's: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
6. Wong Kar Wai's: In the Mood for Love
7. Lukas Moodysson's: Lilya 4-ever
8. David Lynch's: Mulholland Drive
9. Brian De Palma's: Scarface
10. Martin Scorsese's: Taxi Driver

Very close but something had to be dropped:

11. Michael Mann's: Heat

I wouldn't even say Amelie is a better film for example than Heat (if pushed I'd say Heat is) but I have a few macho films already in there so something more feminine was in order, it makes the list more interesting I think too.

p.s - I'm going to move the thread if that's okay.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Feb 2007, 20:23

Barbarian King wrote:I believe Dragon Dynasty will be releasing a new 2-Disc SE later this year and I believe Fist of Legend will be another they'll be handling in R1.

I'll upgrade FOL for sure but HB for me I'm happy with the Tartan UK Remastered DVD.

I don't love Chow's HK films in the way most of you guys do, good though.

Jeez, how could I forget Aliens. Add that to my list now!!!

Sure it's good but IMO I'd put it up their with Shawshank Redemption as being way overrated.

Like I said it's good but part 1 is better and neither are masterpieces IMO, then neither is Scarface I suppose (it's loads of fun though, it's the guilty pleasure on my list).

As for Spider-man man both of those are even more overrated, okay but not much more. IMO X-Men 3 is better than the two Spider-man films, no seriously.

degeneration wrote:This is a toughie. Like what Yi said I always forget a few, so in no particular order my top 10 could consist of any of the following.

You can't pick a top 10 then pick every film you happen to like

. The whole point is it's a top 10, be picky

Barbarian King wrote:My personal top ten:

Any reason with the possible exception of Batman Begins (which I'd say is American) they're all American? And relativity contemporary?

I'm just curious.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Feb 2007, 20:46

grim_tales wrote:Where did you hear about a new release of Hard Boiled on R1?

It's all in black and grey, and has been for a few weeks

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https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=1967

It's up to date AFAIK.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 20 Feb 2007, 21:47

When I recently watched both of the Spider-Man films in the space of two nights, I found that they are deeper than I first thought, and that they are primarily about characterisation and the relationship between Peter and MJ. I appreciated them more than I have done in the past, although I think I still prefer the first one. I'm looking forward to the new one.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 21 Feb 2007, 00:32

bradavon wrote:
Barbarian King wrote:My personal top ten:
Any reason with the possible exception of Batman Begins (which I'd say is American) they're all American? And relativity contemporary?

I'm just curious.

Check the first page. There's a pretty lengthy post I made giving my reasoning for the top ten.

gasteropod wrote:When I recently watched both of the Spider-Man films in the space of two nights, I found that they are deeper than I first thought, and that they are primarily about characterisation and the relationship between Peter and MJ. I appreciated them more than I have done in the past, although I think I still prefer the first one. I'm looking forward to the new one.

It would be fine if the films really were about the relationship between Peter and Mary Jane, but they just keep going back and forth with it and then it finally arrives at a place that's so easily forseeable and cliche that...what's the point? It's like a teen soap-opera...there's no real sense of weight to the dramatic situations and characters. They're just there to get you from one action set-piece to the other. I can understand why people like them, but they just don't do it for me.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 21 Feb 2007, 09:01

Fair enough. Good reasoning, I still enjoyed them and thought they were good.

Mary-Jane seems younger in the movie (Dunst was only 19/20 or something like that in the first movie) than the cartoon (90's toon) for some reason.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 21 Feb 2007, 10:14

grim_tales wrote:Fair enough. Good reasoning, I still enjoyed them and thought they were good.
Mary-Jane seems younger in the movie (Dunst was only 19/20 or something like that in the first movie) than the cartoon (90's toon) for some reason.

I just wish they had kept with Gwen Stacey, then had her killed at the end of the first one because Peter wasn't fast enough to save both the other people and Gwen and Mary Jane comes in at the last scene like in the comic. And in the second film we see their relationship blossoming, while Peter still can't quite let go of Gwen. By the end of the second film, Mary Jane is a near copycat situation that Gwen was in...only this time...he's not going to let it happen again...and saves Mary Jane from Doc Ock.

See...now that's drama. That's good stuff.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 21 Feb 2007, 13:16

In no particular order:

Hollywood:
Braveheart
Scarface
Rocky

HK:
A Moment of Romance
The Killer
Miracles
Invincible Armour
Fearless

Japan:
Seven Samurai
Drunken Angel
Sonatine
Hana-Bi
Battle Royale

Korea:
Oldboy
Memories of Murder
Friend

Oh... that was more than ten. LOL.

captainjoe · Post by **captainjoe** » 21 Feb 2007, 23:03

No Particular Order:

The Exorcist
Halloween
Gladiator
Casino Royale
Jaws
Blade Runner: Director's Cut
Blade Runner: Original Cut
Ghostbusters
Crash (2004)
Goldeneye
Mother
Alien
Groundhog Day
Kingdom of Heaven
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Brazil
King Kong (2005)
Black Rain
Collateral
Seven Samurai

degeneration · Post by **degeneration** » 22 Feb 2007, 02:53

captainjoe wrote:Top 10:

1. Casino Royale
2. Blade Runner
3. Goldeneye
4. Alien
5. Dawn of the Dead (1978)
6. Brazil
7. King Kong (2005)
8. Black Rain
9. Collateral
10. Seven Samurai

While I realise you may think you are serious about that list just now, and I realise Casino Royale was a good film, but was it really BEST EVER sort of calibre?? You put a classic standing the test of time film 2nd, Blade Runnder, but in 20 years is Casino Royale even going to be featuring in anywhere?!?!?

I personally think people have been getting carried away with CR. It was very good, no questions there, but it wasn't THAT good. It was THAT good compared to what a lot of people thought it was going to be like because of the outcry at Daniel Craig being cast as Bond. But it surely cannot be top film ever, or even top 10. Surely it is just a current emotion that will be gone in a little while.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 22 Feb 2007, 11:18

degeneration wrote:
captainjoe wrote:Top 10:

1. Casino Royale
2. Blade Runner
3. Goldeneye
4. Alien
5. Dawn of the Dead (1978)
6. Brazil
7. King Kong (2005)
8. Black Rain
9. Collateral
10. Seven Samurai
While I realise you may think you are serious about that list just now, and I realise Casino Royale was a good film, but was it really BEST EVER sort of calibre?? You put a classic standing the test of time film 2nd, Blade Runnder, but in 20 years is Casino Royale even going to be featuring in anywhere?!?!?

I personally think people have been getting carried away with CR. It was very good, no questions there, but it wasn't THAT good. It was THAT good compared to what a lot of people thought it was going to be like because of the outcry at Daniel Craig being cast as Bond. But it surely cannot be top film ever, or even top 10. Surely it is just a current emotion that will be gone in a little while.

For Bond fans, Casino Royale was a revelation and for the most part, the best film of the series. That's saying a lot.

And remember, these lists aren't about being the "best", they're about "favorites."

I very much like Joe's list. There's a couple of films on there I'm not terribly fond of (Black Rain and Collateral), but it's a very honest and open list and I'd much rather see someone post a list like this than one that resembles more the AFI list than a real honest "favorites" list.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 22 Feb 2007, 12:48

BK, can you remember where my Top 10 list was?
I can't remember what I put on it at all. Possibly In The Mood for Love would go on mine.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Feb 2007, 13:01

bradavon wrote:I don't love Chow's HK films in the way most of you guys do, good though.

Not much else to choose from then, a couple Mandarin wuxia flicks (CTHD is superb and I haven't seen Golden Flower yet) and some Hollywood turds.

He was fantastic in Anna & The King (as was Foster), but man was that film a glistening pile of glossy Hollywood tripe. The Replacement Killers was a major disappointment, Woo so should've directed that, total missed opportunity. Bulletproof Monk... HAHAHA. (The Corrupter, I haven't seen it.)

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 22 Feb 2007, 13:34

"The Corruptor" is Chow's best Hollywood film by far. I love it.

As for "Casino Royale", as much as enjoyed it, but the makers have to admit that many parts have been shamelessly stolen from the "Bourne"-films. Heck, even the poster.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 22 Feb 2007, 13:37

grim_tales wrote:BK, can you remember where my Top 10 list was?
I can't remember what I put on it at all. Possibly In The Mood for Love would go on mine.

Unfortunately, no...I can't remember. Checked my history too and can't seem to find it either.

I guess you'll just have to make a new one.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 22 Feb 2007, 13:40

Bourne stole from the best Bond films - namely the early Connery's and OHMSS. But more exclusively, it's inspired by the writings of Fleming more than any film. Bond was going back to his roots, not ripping on some half-baked franchise that'll be forgotten several years from now.

And there's hundreds of posters that use that similiar kind of style.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 22 Feb 2007, 13:54

Both movies wdeal with secret service style secret agent, double-crossing, hidden agendas and programs, etc etc. It's just a genre-cliche which is necessary in these movies. Cant blame them for having simularities, cause it wouldnt be a secret spy action flick if they didnt have those simularities.

Also, cant say I'm bothered with it, cause both the new Bond as well as the Bourne movies were very entertaining and are among the best in the genre.

I would have preferred if they had used the close-up Bond poster/dvd cover, but a guy waking or running with a gun in his hand is also pretty much a given, when it's a movie in this genre.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 22 Feb 2007, 18:37

Barbarian King wrote:Bourne stole from the best Bond films - namely the early Connery's and OHMSS. But more exclusively, it's inspired by the writings of Fleming more than any film. Bond was going back to his roots, not ripping on some half-baked franchise that'll be forgotten several years from now.

And there's hundreds of posters that use that similiar kind of style.

I have to agree with that. To say "Bond stole from the Bourne films" is bollocks IMO

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 22 Feb 2007, 21:47

In no particular order

10. JSA - Joint Security Area
9. Pulp Fiction
8. Akira
7. Badder Santa
6. Welcome to Dongmakgol
5. Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
4. 13 Going on 30
3. Mortal Kombat
2. Mean Girls
1. Black