Iron Fisted Monk: HKL vs HK Vidéo vs FOX
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Iron Fisted Monk: HKL vs HK Vidéo vs FOX
Note: the rape scene is uncut on the HK Vidéo DVD.
Probably uncut on the FOX as well.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
It may seem like the HKV is heavily cropped, but I think that they've used a different print for the opening titles. It's much sharper, though.
The FOX is perfectly balanced, with no sign of contrast boosting.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
OK. I'm sure the HKL looks exactly like it's supposed to look, but the HKV looks absolutely awesome in this scene. The orange tint gives it some kind of surreal appearance.
Note that the HKL is horizontally stretched, and the HKV is vertically stretched.
The FOX looks great but the colours are probably wrong (for a scene that was shot in the evening).
Minute 67.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
One looks green, the other looks red. The HKL might be a bit brighter.
FOX wins. No contest.
Minute 81.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
The HKL is a bit sharper.
FOX looks great.
Minute 36.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
Annoying horizonal stretching on the HKL once again.
Subs are simplified on the HKV, dumbed-down on the HKL.
Overall, I know that the HKL looks best but I don't think I'll watch it again because:
-The colours are washed-out.
-It's cut.
-It's got a remix.
-It's horizontally stretched.
The FOX is probably the best available version right now.
Probably uncut on the FOX as well.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
It may seem like the HKV is heavily cropped, but I think that they've used a different print for the opening titles. It's much sharper, though.
The FOX is perfectly balanced, with no sign of contrast boosting.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
OK. I'm sure the HKL looks exactly like it's supposed to look, but the HKV looks absolutely awesome in this scene. The orange tint gives it some kind of surreal appearance.
Note that the HKL is horizontally stretched, and the HKV is vertically stretched.
The FOX looks great but the colours are probably wrong (for a scene that was shot in the evening).
Minute 67.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
One looks green, the other looks red. The HKL might be a bit brighter.
FOX wins. No contest.
Minute 81.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
The HKL is a bit sharper.
FOX looks great.
Minute 36.
HKL:
HKV:
FOX:
Annoying horizonal stretching on the HKL once again.
Subs are simplified on the HKV, dumbed-down on the HKL.
Overall, I know that the HKL looks best but I don't think I'll watch it again because:
-The colours are washed-out.
-It's cut.
-It's got a remix.
-It's horizontally stretched.
The FOX is probably the best available version right now.
Last edited by tom2681 on 02 Jun 2006, 00:15, edited 2 times in total.
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So, the HKL is cut then? If so, then fucking BBFC nazis. I am so fucking sick of your British nanny state government. Yeah, let's violate an artist's freedom of expression just so that IMPRESSIONABLE YOUTH won't copy what's on screen.
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There is a funny rape scene in this movie (yes, it's meant to be a comedic scene) and it's cut by at least one minute in the HKL.
What's funny in that scene is the juxtaposition of a horrible rape and a comedic exchange in the next room, which creates a weird and absurd atmosphere.
Apparently the BBFC can't understand that.
What's funny in that scene is the juxtaposition of a horrible rape and a comedic exchange in the next room, which creates a weird and absurd atmosphere.
Apparently the BBFC can't understand that.
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Aren't there 2 rape scenes?
I've seen the uncut version. I'd hardly call the rapes comedic. Its' more graphic in its uncut version but its the juxtapasition of rape and the comedic scene which is disturbing.
A few of Sammo's early films (eg Magnificent Butcher) leave me feeling like that.
I agree its a shame the HKL is cut, though the BBFC didnt cut it because they thought people would "copy" the rape
I've seen the uncut version. I'd hardly call the rapes comedic. Its' more graphic in its uncut version but its the juxtapasition of rape and the comedic scene which is disturbing.
A few of Sammo's early films (eg Magnificent Butcher) leave me feeling like that.
I agree its a shame the HKL is cut, though the BBFC didnt cut it because they thought people would "copy" the rape
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No offence Eva but get over it. I get so BORED of people moaning about the BBFC. The MPAA are just as bad at giving crazy ratings but no one seems to care.EvaUnit02 wrote:If so, then fucking BBFC nazis. I am so fucking sick of your British nanny state government. Yeah, let's violate an artist's freedom of expression just so that IMPRESSIONABLE YOUTH won't copy what's on screen.
They are so much more lenient than they ever have been but no one bothers to mention that. You never hear people dissing the MPAA (who I'm sure cut films too), the OFLC, the French censors (if they never cut films then what are they there for?).
The fact is the film is uncut elsewhere in a decent form so big deal it's cut in the UK.
That said oddly I agree here as it's a cut 18, of all the ratings 18 should be left uncut. Still I'm not going to constantly bitch out it, was my point.
Good point but I've been thinking it's really Fortune Star and in the case of IVL + Spectrum (Korea) & Joy Sales too, probably.Markgway wrote:It's Fox, not IVL.
None of them change what FS give them so to call it by the Fox/IVL name is a bit misleading. In the case of HKL's FS DVDs then yes they should stay as HKL as they have changed what FS have given them.
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Not true; the HKL Wheels on Meals is different to the Spectrum despite coming from the same remastered print source. Sometimes distributors can affect changes and unless someone posts caps from any of the Asian releases we won't know if that's the case here. Best not to assume when it comes to HK movies on DVD. 8)bradavon wrote:None of them change what FS give them so to call it by the Fox/IVL name is a bit misleading.
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True and True. More reason to bitch about the MPAA then.
The MPAA force so many cuts on director's before they ever get to the final theatrical cut. Most cuts we get are actually the MPAA approved cut, it's easier to use the American cut worldwide.
How many "so called" director's cuts are really, truly director's cut?
The MPAA force so many cuts on director's before they ever get to the final theatrical cut. Most cuts we get are actually the MPAA approved cut, it's easier to use the American cut worldwide.
How many "so called" director's cuts are really, truly director's cut?
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The Shen thing.bradavon wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't get the joke?
Why should I? Becuz of those fuckers I had to import an expensive mainland European release of the Fistful of Dynamite SE.No offence Eva but get over it. I get so BORED of people moaning about the BBFC. The MPAA are just as bad at giving crazy ratings but no one seems to care.
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Believe it or not, neither am I. All I want is the original soundtrack that is in sync and doesn't sound like it was recorded inside a bottle. I know it's a lot to ask when it comes FS / FOX...Markgway wrote:Seemed fine to me, but I'm no audiophile.HungFist wrote:Mark, how's the mono?
But thanks. I may consider getting Fox then.