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Chiba is damn cool, but a fair few of his 70s films suffer from shakey-cam during the fights that results in seizures! He also seems to lack the same talent pool as HK's greatest - it seems he ends up facing Masashi Ishibashi in every film, with the same damn choreography!
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There was WWIII in relation to this topic some half a year ago...

I actually prefer Chiba's karate films to almost any HK kung fu films, with maybe a few exception (The Prodigal Son, Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, etc.) for number of reasons

- The intensity. While Chiba's films lack the state of art choreography found in HK, they often pack more intensity. HK old school fighting has a tendency to resemble Peking Opera - actors performing endless fancy moves in fight scenes that go on forever and merely suggest the fighters posses no danger to each other. Chiba's karate films on the other hand seem more inspired by samurai movies - every single strike could kill you, which makes the fights much more intense. It's a bit ironic considering the lack of full contact, as opposed to HK's true-full contact. But of course this doesn't apply to all HK films, and some of HK's total nutcases, such as The Prodigal Son and some of Jackie fights, are in a league of their own.

- The kick-ass factor. The Japanese 1970's action films were usually tightly packed (running around 85 min), ultra-violent and all around kick ass. HK martial arts films on the other hand often suffered from clumsy comedy bits and too much storyline. Neither the Japanese nor the Chinese had any storytelling talent, but the Japanese kept the storyline to absolute minimum, while too many HK films attempted to tell a dramatic story and ended up merely boring the viewer between the fight scenes.

- Toei casting! While perhaps a turn off for some, I love the fact that every time you watch a 70's Toei action film you can recognize at least a dozen cast members. They had like 20 regular actors for each genre, of which half could be found in any genre film. Masashi Ishibashi especially gets grand applause every time he makes a villain appearance (I must have seen him playing a bad guy for more than 20 times).

- Chiba. A wise man once said: "Even bad Chiba films have one good thing about them: Sonny Chiba". The most motherfucker karate asshole that ever walked the earth! Love the guy to death!

Of course some Chiba films had poor fights (no wonder with him making up to 7 martial arts films per year). The shakey cam is also true and regrettable, but I don't think it ruined the films in question. The Oyama films (especially Karate for Life) feature my favorite Chiba fights. In comparison, I don't care nearly as much for Sanada's fights, which are much more HK style...

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This is great news. Has anybody seen Hasebe's RAPE TRAIN yet?

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HungFist wrote:A little bit something I got inspired into doing while taking break from writing thesis...

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Hello! I just found this forum recently and I really like what I see :). Great topics about Japanese exploitation/cult cinema.

Anyway I have a question. Do below movies have English subtitles? Maybe some home-made subs?:

- Delinquent Girl Boss: Tokyo Drifters
- Delinquent Girl Boss: Ballad of Yokohama Hoods
- Terrifying Girls' High School: Women's Violent Classroom
- Terrifying Girls' High School: Delinquent Convulsion Group
- Terrifying Girls' High School: Animal Courage

If somebody have English subtitles for those movies, could you post them please? :lol:

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Can't recall having come across subs for any of those...

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Hi guys,
In addition to my regular mainstream movies (i have subbed about 30 so far):
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I'm starting a Pink/Erotic Classics, movie subbing project.
I add a movie every week:
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This week:
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ozzy_tom wrote:Delinquent Girl Boss: Ballad of Yokohama Hoods
I'd murder for a subbed copy of this--by far my favorite unsubbed film in my collection.

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Anybody know anything about Daiei's HIGH SCHOOL BOSS series, mostly directed by Michikio Obimori in 1970 and starring Eiko Yanami?

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Marshall wrote:
Marshall wrote: Say, that sure looks like Reiko Ike on the poster for the 14th entry in the series. Can anyone confirm? She doesn't seem to be listed in the credits (at least that I've found.)
This guy seems to think it's her.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOLVES-OF-THE-C ... 2321aa4848

Hardly definitive, but I think I'm gonna blind-buy the DVD.
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HK Video will release a Teruo Ishii box set titled Sex and Fury Vol. 1 on November 12. The set will contain Ijô seiai kiroku: Harenchi (Un Amour abusif, déviant et dévergondé) (1969) (available also from Toei) and Porno Jidaigeki Bohachi Bushido (Les 8 Vertus bafouées) (1973) (available also from Toei and Discotek). And yes, that's Reiko Ike from Norifumi Suzuki's Sex & Fury in the cover art, for some reason...

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HungFist wrote:And yes, that's Reiko Ike from Norifumi Suzuki's Sex & Fury in the cover art, for some reason.../
That's really odd, even if they'll possibly release SEX & FURY as part of Volume 2, as I suspect. Maybe there was some shuffling around of titles and they didn't bother to change the cover art? Frankly, the only good thing I expect to come from this release are the subtitles for IJOU SEIAI KIROKU: HARENCHI. Since both included films already exist as Toei releases I fully expect HK Video to follow their established pattern and just do shoddy NTSC-PAL conversions. The only two times they did genuine PAL transfers was when they were dealing with films unavailable on NTSC DVD at the time: ORGIES OF EDO and YAKUZA'S LAW.

By the way, IJOU SEIAI KIROKU: HARENCHI has also just been released on DVD in Germany, following a previous VHS release there:

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The German dub from the VHS is included, as is the Japanese audio and German dubtitles.

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hey not sure where to put this but ive been looking for - Kokosei Bancho : Shinyahoso (1970) aka Girls' high school Boss : Midnight broadcasting...if anyone has this or knows where i can purchase it please let me know.... thanks :)

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skeugh wrote:hey not sure where to put this but ive been looking for - Kokosei Bancho : Shinyahoso (1970) aka Girls' high school Boss : Midnight broadcasting...if anyone has this or knows where i can purchase it please let me know.... thanks :)
Terrribly sorry that I can't help--was this ever even released on VHS? I'd desparately love to have this as well. Anyone know how many films in this series? The alternate titles mess me up.

In fact, perhaps someone could help me organize these fragments of info on Daiei and Toho youth/pinky violence films. Not sure if some of this is wrong or if some of these are actually the same film...

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: HATSUTAIKEN (1968) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: SHISSHIN (1/11/69) D: Taro Yuge. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

DUMP HIP BUMP: KUREBARE YARODOMO (5/17/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Mari Atsumi, Junko Yashiro.

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: ZOKU NINSHIN (7/26/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

YOUNG POWER SERIES: DAIGAKU BANGAICHI (11/29/69) D: Michihiko Obimori.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS/WAY IN, WAY OUT (5/1/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Ichiro Ogura.

ELECTRIC MEDUSA/PLAY IT COOL (5/2/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

YORU NO ISOGINCHAKU/INNOCENT SINNER (7/1/70) D: Taro Yuge. C: Mari Atsumi.

HIGH SCHOOL AFFAIR (8/22/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: BOTATE ASOBI/THE ALL-OUT GAME (a.k.a. UPRIGHT STICK GAME?) (9/12/70) D: Akira Okazaki. C: Eiko Yanami, Yoko Namikawa.

SHIBIREKURAGE/THE HOT LITTLE GIRL (10/3/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Ryo Tamura.

NEW HIGH SCHOOL BLUES/THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT (12/25/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: ALL-NIGHT (MIDNIGHT?) BROADCASTING (?/?/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

HIGH SCHOOL GIRL BOSS: BAD GIRL GROUP (?/?/70) C: Eiko Yanami.

SOFT-SHELLED TURTLE BOSS (1/27/71) D: Taro Yuge. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

MONA LISA OKYO (6/23/71) D: Iwataro Ishii. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

NAUGHTY THREE-WOMEN GANG (?/?/71) D: Showa Oota. C: Eiko Yanami, Akane Kawasaki.

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Gaijin84 wrote:
logboy wrote:even though i can get them for $9 each
Where can you get them that cheaply? The best I could find was on DDD for ~$11-15 with free shipping over $25
importcds.com

seems to be popular choice these days. biggest difficulty I have is making postage cost effective; they have semi-random shipping / cancellation and preorder ideas. sometimes, as I'm in the uk, I use hdwow and wait for discounts and sales which happen frequently. I got 'fairy in a cage' blu for £10 shipped.

edit. prices there now about $11 currently.

http://www.importcds.com/Search/Guided/ ... 4294958551

lots of great prices on this seller, always worth a check.

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Marshall wrote:In fact, perhaps someone could help me organize these fragments of info on Daiei and Toho youth/pinky violence films. Not sure if some of this is wrong or if some of these are actually the same film...

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: HATSUTAIKEN (1968) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: SHISSHIN (1/11/69) D: Taro Yuge. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

DUMP HIP BUMP: KUREBARE YARODOMO (5/17/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Mari Atsumi, Junko Yashiro.

ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: ZOKU NINSHIN (7/26/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

YOUNG POWER SERIES: DAIGAKU BANGAICHI (11/29/69) D: Michihiko Obimori.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS/WAY IN, WAY OUT (5/1/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Ichiro Ogura.

ELECTRIC MEDUSA/PLAY IT COOL (5/2/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

YORU NO ISOGINCHAKU/INNOCENT SINNER (7/1/70) D: Taro Yuge. C: Mari Atsumi.

HIGH SCHOOL AFFAIR (8/22/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: BOTATE ASOBI/THE ALL-OUT GAME (a.k.a. UPRIGHT STICK GAME?) (9/12/70) D: Akira Okazaki. C: Eiko Yanami, Yoko Namikawa.

SHIBIREKURAGE/THE HOT LITTLE GIRL (10/3/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Ryo Tamura.

NEW HIGH SCHOOL BLUES/THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT (12/25/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: ALL-NIGHT (MIDNIGHT?) BROADCASTING (?/?/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

HIGH SCHOOL GIRL BOSS: BAD GIRL GROUP (?/?/70) C: Eiko Yanami.

SOFT-SHELLED TURTLE BOSS (1/27/71) D: Taro Yuge. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

MONA LISA OKYO (6/23/71) D: Iwataro Ishii. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

NAUGHTY THREE-WOMEN GANG (?/?/71) D: Showa Oota. C: Eiko Yanami, Akane Kawasaki.
I've done some research on this list from the AVManiacs forum. Here are the titles you've listed with corrected info (in red) and Japanese titles:

ある女子高校医の記録 初体験 ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: HATSUTAIKEN (10/30/1968) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

ある女子高校医の記録 失神 ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: SHISSHIN (1/11/69) D: Taro Yuge. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

ダンプ・ヒップ・バンプ くればれ野郎ども DUMP HIP BUMP: KUREBARE YARODOMO (5/17/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Mari Atsumi, Junko Yashiro.

ある女子高校医の記録 続・妊娠 ARU JOSHI KOKOI NO KIROKU: ZOKU NINSHIN (7/26/69) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Junko Yashiro.

ヤングパワー・シリーズ 大学番外地 YOUNG POWER SERIES: DAIGAKU BANGAICHI (11/29/69) D: Michihiko Obimori.

高校生番長 HIGH SCHOOL BOSS/WAY IN, WAY OUT (5/1/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Yoko Namikawa, Ichiro Ogura.

でんきくらげ ELECTRIC MEDUSA/PLAY IT COOL (5/1/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

夜のいそぎんちゃく YORU NO ISOGINCHAKU/INNOCENT SINNER (7/1/70) D: Taro Yuge. C: Mari Atsumi.

高校生ブルース HIGH SCHOOL AFFAIR (8/22/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

高校生番長 棒立てあそび HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: BOTATE ASOBI/THE ALL-OUT GAME (a.k.a. UPRIGHT STICK GAME?) (9/12/70) D: Akira Okazaki. C: Eiko Yanami, Yoko Namikawa.

しびれくらげ SHIBIREKURAGE/THE HOT LITTLE GIRL (10/3/70) D: Yasuzo Masumura. C: Mari Atsumi, Ryo Tamura.

新・高校生ブルース NEW HIGH SCHOOL BLUES/THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT (12/25/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Keiko Takahashi, Yoshiro Uchida.

高校生番長 深夜放送 HIGH SCHOOL BOSS: ALL-NIGHT (MIDNIGHT?) BROADCASTING (10/24/70) D: Michihiko Obimori. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

高校生番長 ズベ公正統派 HIGH SCHOOL GIRL BOSS: BAD GIRL GROUP (12/15/70) D: Shigeo Tanaka C: Eiko Yanami.

すっぽん女番長 SOFT-SHELLED TURTLE BOSS (1/27/71) D: Taro Yuge. C: Eiko Yanami, Keiko Matsuzaka.

モナリザお京 MONA LISA OKYO (6/23/71) D: Iwataro Ishii. C: Mari Atsumi, Yusuke Kawazu.

穴場あらし NAUGHTY THREE-WOMEN GANG (10/16/71) D: Showa Oota. C: Eiko Yanami, Akane Kawasaki - Although the title doesn't translate exactly, this is the only film with this director and cast that I can find.

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Wow, G84, thanks a million.

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Just a quick question that hoping someone can answer. I've seen the series of Ero guro/pinky violence films by Terou Ishii referred to as the "Tokugawa Era" series. Here is what seems to be the agreed on list:

1) Tokugawa: Woman Genealogy [Tokugawa Onna Keizu] {徳川女系図} (5/1/1968)

2) Shogun's Joy of Torture aka Female Punishment of the Tokugawa [Tokugawa Onna Keibatsushi] {徳川女刑罰史} (9/28/1968)

3) Orgies of Edo [Zankoku Ijo Gyakutai Monogatari Genroku Jokeizu] {残酷異常虐待物語 元禄女系図} (1/9/1969)

4) Shameless: Abnormal and Abusive Love [Ijo Seai Kiroku Harenchi] {異常性愛記録 ハレンチ} (2/21/1969)

5) Inferno of Torture aka Hell's Tattooers [Tokugawa Irezumishi Seme Jigoku] {徳川いれずみ師 責め地獄} (5/2/1969)

6) Yakuza's Law aka A History of Yakuza Punishment: Lynch! [Yakuza Keibatsushi: Lynch!] {やくざ刑罰史 私刑} (6/27/1969)

7) Love and Crime [Meiji Taisho Showa Ryoki Onna Hanzaishi] {明治大正昭和 猟奇女犯罪史} (8/27/1969)

8) Bohachi Bushido: Code of the Forgotten Eight [Porno Jidaigeki: Bohachi Bushido] {ポルノ時代劇 忘八武士道} (2/3/1973) - questionable

Are there any missing and what are the general criteria to include or exclude a film? One reason I ask is that "Shameless: Abnormal and Abusive Love" and parts of "Yakuza's Law" are set in modern times, certainly not the Tokugawa Era. Are these simply determined by the subject matter and director?

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I think the whole Ishii Tokugawa -definition is very loosely used (and often by people who haven't seen half of the films and/or don't even know what Tokugawa means). The films are also referred to as Ishii's torture movies, or Ishii's female punishment movies, which are equally loose (and often incorrect) labelings.

Shameless: Abnormal and Abusive Love has nothing to do with Tokugawa. It's set entirely in the 1960's.

As far as I remember Love and Crime doesn't have any Tokugawa parts either. And I suppose we can take the title (Meiji Taisho Showa Ryoki Onna Hanzaishi) as a clue, too, haha.

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thanks HungFist, verification of my thoughts is much appreciated!
I'll just look at these films as one director's arc of his interests and the popularity of subject matter at the time, not a definitive "series" per se

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Teruo Ishii wasn't that much of a great artist. A lot of time one of his main motivations was to piss off studios and see how far they'd let him go. It was his natural talent, attitude, and technical skill, that created great genre cinema, sometimes half-accidentally.

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I think it is best to label most of the above mentioned Ishii-Movies as his "ero-guro-era" The whole Tokugawa-Labelling-thing is complete bullshit anyway. I agree totally with hungfist, Ishii just looked how far he could go with these "experiments".

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Just to let you guys know: I did a bit of spring cleaning for the thread. I deleted a whole bunch of random chatter and outdated news, also combined many short posts. As a result the thread is now 6 pages shorter and your post count may be a bit lower than before. All the important information, reviews and conversations should still be intact, though.

This is not to discourage chatting in this thread, just an annual clean up (the first in 6 years...) to make the thread more compact and detele stuff that is no longer relevant.

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How are Makiguchi's Virgin Breaker Yuki films? Both are playing in Tokyo on 35mm, and I might have a chance to catch them, but I'm not sure they are my cup of sake. I'm not too interested in sexploitation per se, so would need to have other elements to keep my attention, e.g. violence, stylish cinematography, groovy soundtrack etc. As a comparison, I'm not a fan of Suzuki's period pinks like Tokugawa Sex Ban (or the modern day Modern Porno Tale) either... but I do love Teruo Ishii's Tokugawa films.

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