Rage Against the Machine for Christmas No. 1

[bradavon]

Do your bit to keep the "Cowell X-Factor Machine" from getting yet another number 1! The song's probably rubbish but if it keeps wetboy off the number 1 slot, I'm in. All for only 29p:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001I4NZP4

[Markgway]

Seems kinda childish. I wouldn't buy a crap song just so that it makes more money than some other crap song. I haven't heard either yet. Would be funny if The X-Factor song was the better of the two.

[gasteropod]

You've never heard RATM - Killing in the Name??

[bradavon]

So you're happy with X-Factor being Xmas number 1 every year forever? It has been for the past 4 years now. I knew "you'd" not get it Granddad. Go stick a pipe in it.

[degeneration]

Killing inthe Name isn't RATM's best song, but the x-factor one is particularly crap this year, so I'll be buying the RATM song, at least once.

And it is partly so that it is not x-factor again at the x-mas #1, but also cause I think it will be pretty amazing if what started (as far as I am aware) as a facebook group with one guy choosing a random song which he'd prefer to be number one, actually makes it to number one.

[bradavon]

And it is partly so that it is not x-factor again at the x-mas #1, but also cause I think it will be pretty amazing if what started (as far as I am aware) as a facebook group with one guy choosing a random song which he'd prefer to be number one, actually makes it to number one.

Agreed. That would be so cool.

The X-Factor song is awful and I like both of last years winners.

[Markgway]

You've never heard RATM - Killing in the Name??

Obviously not. I take it you like it?

So you're happy with X-Factor being Xmas number 1 every year forever? It has been for the past 4 years now. I knew "you'd" not get it Granddad. Go stick a pipe in it.

I just don't care.

If I like a song I'll buy it - but waste money just to piss off Simon Cowell? Nah. He doesn't give a shit anyways. He wipes his arse with thousand dollar bills regardless of what some tit on Facebook does.

The X-Factor song is awful and I like both of last years winners.

Isn't there only one winner? Alexandra Burke wasn't it?

[gasteropod]

Obviously not. I take it you like it?

It's OK, I used to listen to them nearly a decade ago but don't anymore, but it's just one of those songs that I thought everyone knew, whenever it comes on on a night out everyone's on the dancefloor.

[Markgway]

I may have heard it. Just don't recognize the title.

From the little I know I didn't think their sort of music was dance floor filler.

[bradavon]

but also cause I think it will be pretty amazing if what started (as far as I am aware) as a facebook group with one guy choosing a random song which he'd prefer to be number one, actually makes it to number one.

That's real people power. Back in the day the average joe couldn't do anything to stop a shite song getting to number 1. Now it's a serious possibility.

[Markgway]

That's real people power. Back in the day the average joe couldn't do anything to stop a shite song getting to number 1. Now it's a serious possibility.

The charts are still based on sales. What was it about the old system (ie. buying discs or vinyl) that prevented 'Joes' from buying alternate music (as in alternate to the 'shite' frontrunner)? Or do you mean downloads allow fans to pick any song that's ever been released and boost its popularity? If it's a matter of choice then the internet has endless possibilities. Next Xmas I'm starting a campaign to get Rick Astley to No.1. Fingers crossed.

[degeneration]

Next Xmas I'm starting a campaign to get Rick Astley to No.1. Fingers crossed.

I'd buy it!! Would be effing hilarious!!

[bradavon]

The charts are still based on sales. What was it about the old system (ie. buying discs or vinyl) that prevented 'Joes' from buying alternate music (as in alternate to the 'shite' frontrunner)? Or do you mean downloads allow fans to pick any song that's ever been released and boost its popularity?

Neither. Before the popularity of the web, there was no avenue to have a "voice on mass". Back in the day of £3.99 CD Singles, it was next to impossible to do what has been done this week.

That is in a matter of days, get enough people to buy a single, to make it number 1-2-3 in the charts and as Degeneration says, it all started with a single person starting a Facebook group. Which btw it was holding the number 1 and 3 positions, as the explicit version is categorised separately. I don't know how things fair now.

The actual song isn't important to me, it's how this is now possible that is cool. I'd have bought pretty much any single for 29p. As many others have too.

[grim_tales]

It'd be funny if RATM was No. 1, its nothing to do with Joe (who deserved to win) per se, or even Sony, its because Cowell is a smug tosser who thinks he has a God given right to the Christmas No. 1 and says he gave the public "good music" back for Christmas "instead of Mr. Blobby", he produced Mr. Blobby FFS, the irony!

[saltysam]

Cowell is a smug tosser who thinks he has a God given right to the Christmas No. 1

You do realise RATM are signed to Cowell's label don't you?it's a win-win for him and people are falling for it no matter cd sales will see the x-factor winner (don't even know his name) get to no1 comfortably.

[gasteropod]

Epic is Simon Cowell's label?!

[grim_tales]

RATM are signed to Epic in the US, who are owned by Sony (I think), not Sony Music or SyCo.

[saltysam]

Copied from elsewhere

"I have read some comments pointing out that RATM's record label is also owned by Sony (which owns Syco, Cowell's label) and therefore it's ultimately just giving more money to the same massive company. There are also other comments that it would be better to give the 29p or 79p or whatever you spend on the song to charity. These points and others are fair and well made, however I hope that the campaign succeeds." i agree with Mark though,are people really bothered enough by something as trivial as this to actually start a campaign the mind boggles,it truly does.my money's on Cliff or Shakey.

[grim_tales]

The money from the RATM song will be going to charity too though.

[Markgway]

Just listened to that RATM track... What a load of absolute shite. Is that really the best choice out of every song ever made that Facebook geek could come up with? Why on earth would anyone pay to listen to that drivel? At 29p it's overpriced. I hope The X-Factor kid wins. Not because his song is good, but because it's just inoffensively bland. And to me bad is worse than bland. Don't believe me? Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY

[bradavon]

You so don't get the point do you Mark .

p.s - Just because Sony own Syco, it's not the same as giving it direct to Syco. Sony are going to see the cash, not Cowell.

[saltysam]

p.s - Just because Sony own Syco, it's not the same as giving it direct to Syco. Sony are going to see the cash, not Cowell.

poor Simon,we'll have a whip round for him.as mentioned elsewhere,the guy wipes his arse on $100 dollar bills so i really don't see how him not getting to no1 at xmas will bother him in the slightest.this a pathetic,stupid,embarrassing inane campaign.

[grim_tales]

XF is a campaign in itself, I doubt Joe would get No1 without XF.

[Markgway]

You so don't get the point do you Mark . Just because Sony own Syco, it's not the same as giving it direct to Syco. Sony are going to see the cash, not Cowell.

Cowell is a multi-millionaire. You think he's gonna lose sleep over whether his record makes #1 or #2? We're not talking about someone who cares about artistic integrity here. He'll rake in millions from sales and the show regardless. You and all the other plebs who spend money to 'teach Cowell a lesson' are the ones who don't get it. That's why he's rich and you're Brad from Bullets.

And I still say that of all the songs that could've been chosen, to pick one far worse than The X-Factor entry is more irony than you can possibly handle...

[bradavon]

poor Simon,we'll have a whip round for him.as mentioned elsewhere,the guy wipes his arse on $100 dollar bills so i really don't see how him not getting to no1 at xmas will bother him in the slightest.this a pathetic,stupid,embarrassing inane campaign.

Of course he will. He hates to lose.

XF is a campaign in itself, I doubt Joe would get No1 without XF.

Not a chance.