Eastern Condors: R1Fox vs R2HKL vs R2FR

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 05 Feb 2007, 10:40

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63968

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Feb 2007, 11:09

Based on that review... avoid at all costs !

It seems the Joy Sales is very similar to the R1.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 05 Feb 2007, 14:00

That's what I though...

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 05 Feb 2007, 16:37

Don't know if I've mentioned this, but PEKING OPERA BLUES has original mono, not a remix.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 05 Feb 2007, 18:15

I don't know if you've mentioned it but I'm getting it.

Although as far as I remember the Mega Star disc wasn't too bad. The transfer was pretty decent (JS actually looks a bit dark, I always thought POB is meant to be a bright film) and I don't recal any big problems with the 5.1 audio. It's been quite a long time since I last viewed the whole film, though.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 06 Feb 2007, 06:38

The subs have been cleaned up.

No more: "There's a woman, knock her up" (which happens to be my motto).

brooce-leroy · Post by **brooce-leroy** » 21 Jul 2007, 11:02

Is there a "good in all departments" version of this on dvd yet?

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 21 Jul 2007, 11:17

Sadly no, Brooce.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 21 Jul 2007, 11:39

I think I'm getting the HKL. Joy Sales and the French disc are both downmixes (there may or may not be a good mandarin mono on JS though, can't remember), Fox is Fox and I can't see any other editions coming anytime soon.

Toge · Post by **Toge** » 23 Jul 2007, 03:43

Maybe on a HD romero

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 27 Feb 2008, 13:24

*Added french caps*

Time to get rid of my HKL disc.
I just hope the sync issues have been fixed on the Seven Sept version.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 27 Feb 2008, 13:33

The FR disc was remixed (or downmixed), right?

Has anyone bought the new German disc?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 27 Feb 2008, 13:34

Details on French version? Sadly it suffers from double (? Fox being the first) left/right cropping syndrome which affects some DVDs using FS's stuff.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 27 Feb 2008, 13:45

Yep, there's some slight cropping and window-boxing on the french transfer.

Disc size: 6,73 gb.
Running time: 94:29 minutes (PAL).
2:35.1 progressive anamorphic transfer.

Sound:
5.1 french dub.
2.0 cantonese soundtrack (don't know whether it's a downmix).

Removable french subs.

Extras:
Original HK trailer for Ah Kam.
Trailer for Project A, Shanghai Express, Eastern Condors, Project A 2.
7:36 Yuen Wah interview (cantonese with french subs).

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 27 Feb 2008, 14:00

Shoddy French standards = no original trailer

?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 27 Feb 2008, 14:19

@ChenLung:
Nope. I was disappointed as well.
Might keep the FOX disc for the trailer.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 27 Feb 2008, 14:36

German disc:
The picture quality is supposed to be phenomenal, according to someone who said that he had never seen "Eastern Condors" so clearly. Three different versions were released which differ in their cover arts only.

Specs:
Running time: 93:42
Video: 2,35:1 (anamorph / 16:9)
Audio: German (Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
Cantonese (Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono)
Subtitles: German, Englisch (not appliable from the menu)

Extras:
Original Trailer (3m 36s)
German Trailer (2m)
Teaser (2m 33s)
Japanese Trailer (3m 38s)
Liveshow Performance (13m 12s)
Photo Gallery
Alternative German VHS Opening and Ending Credits (4m 45s)
Trailers for: Jian - Das Schwert, Todesduell der Shaolin

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 27 Feb 2008, 14:40

Some screenshots from the German version (although a bit small):
http://www.wicked-vision.com/tabelle_re ... hp?ID=1116

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 27 Feb 2008, 15:30

English subs, woohoo. I thought this would be another custom sub job... I'm getting this asap.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 27 Feb 2008, 15:43

Das Deutchland cover = :mrgreen: (except the top one). I like HKL's one too. Thanks Huss.

Curiously, English 2.0? Could either be a downmix of the STAR TV dub, or the original one has been sourced (said to be trimmed in comparison to the HK version). Will have to ask about Cantonese 2.0's status too.

That looks to be a fine package indeed, but are the subtitles flubtitles (original print), dubtitles (Fox), Tai Seng's (could be on Universe's DVD too maybe in which re-translate) or HKLs (on... well HKL's)?

The only thing to make it truly definitive are the HKL Sammo interviews, English credit sequence/trailer and the reportedly excellent Universe remix.

Is the 'Live Show' the 1987 'Miss Beauty Pageant' thing in which everyone flips all over the stage etc?

Are extras English subtitled?

Hidden feature is apparently the German credits as Hussain mentions according to this (http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassun ... vid=224954).

Also, the review mentions the German dub has subtitles for scenes cut in other versions - could it revert to the Cantonese version? The English version could be the same. (Used Babelfish and it's worked somewhat for once

)

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Feb 2008, 19:05

That top cover is sooooo gay!! The other two are OK though.

If someone can confirm that the Cantonese mono is genuine, that the film is proper uncut, and that the English subs aren't dubtitles, then I'd buy this.

LD: We await your appraisal.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 27 Feb 2008, 19:09

the asiandvdguide thread says "original mono" with the word original underlined. I guess that means the poster knows what he's talking about.

EDIT: mono, not momo

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Feb 2008, 19:10

Class.

Now about the subs.......

EC desperately needs a definitive version as all the others are flawed.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 27 Feb 2008, 19:11

Is that guy called spannick? If so, then I'm pretty sure he is trustworthy. He is envolved with the releases of that DVD label and he knows his stuff.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 27 Feb 2008, 19:21

http://adg.invisionzone.com/index.php?s ... rn+condors