Covered on the BBC:Strathclyde Police have linked the attack to the discovery of two car bombs in London's West End on Friday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6258206.stm
Covered on the BBC:Strathclyde Police have linked the attack to the discovery of two car bombs in London's West End on Friday.
There was no attack, a member of the public found one car and an ambulance crew an other.grim_tales wrote:I heard about the attack on London as well yesterday (no one was injured there either).
No not just Iraq but it was a massive catalyst. The UK is the highest terror target in Europe for Islamist extremists, yet on terrorism European all has the same message.grim_tales wrote:Thanks Brad, I didnt know that.
I don't think its just Iraq though - theyre just using that as an excuse.
Hang on, what about the IRA? Nope we have forgotten this now.Mobiles have been used to detonate bombs in Iraq and Indonesia and in other terror attacks, such as the 2004 Madrid bombings.
Bollocks. I guess Gordon set it all up then, sorry man but that shit. I guess they paid them idiots to try to blow themselves up to get a law passed, anyone thing that in any way is obviously a bit mental.slasher13 wrote:Wow I love how the news is really hyping this up, All news media have been saying this is the work of al-Qaeda or a group which involves with them..
One thing to add to this, is that Gordon Brown couldn't have passed the bill which was to detained terrorist suspect for 90days, 2 times it got rejected, now after this what is the chances it will be rejected. None, its going to get passed!! Pretty coincidence if you ask me.
What about the IRA? I don't remember any plot using mobile phones but it's possible yes. Not that as Romero says it's relevant.slasher13 wrote:Hang on, what about the IRA? Nope we have forgotten this now.
What are you smoking Slasher?slasher13 wrote:One thing to add to this, is that Gordon Brown couldn't have passed the bill which was to detained terrorist suspect for 90days, 2 times it got rejected, now after this what is the chances it will be rejected. None, its going to get passed!! Pretty coincidence if you ask me. Again in a fear of a supposed terrorist attack, the public are scared, and will look to the state for protection. The state will give protection, but only if they surrender part of their freedom..
The news always hypes things up, that's nothing new. You sound surprised?slasher13 wrote:Wow I love how the news is really hyping this up, All news media have been saying this is the work of al-Qaeda or a group which involves with them..
Dude it isn't that long ago, The most recent was 2 car bomb for the IRA in 2001, where the BBC news and West london street was attacked, so not going back in time, Don't you remember this? It was quite big newsWhat the hells IRA got to do with this? your changing the subject totally, this is 2007 for gods sake, dont go back in time.
I don't think I am jumping to assumptions, as everyone knows a terrorist attack which is terrifying leads people to give up their rights, but Lets wait for this, The 90 day detention bill, see if it gets rejected or passedBlair tried to pass that bill many times and it got turned down. Why now would it be allowed? Come on, we had terrorists attacks very similar just a year ago and no bill.
You're jumping to gross assumptions out of thin air.
Mmm the thing is, any terrorist attacks can be related to Al-Qaeda, that is the one thing that everyone has spun on this. The group Al-Qaeda simply means database, even BBC in the past has said that this was a codename used by intelligence for database, any attack on this soil, even if it was a lone madman can be attributed if they was asian, middle eastern to Al-Qaeda.The news always hypes things up, that's nothing new. You sound surprised?
Isn't it likely it's an Al-Qaeda off shot. I'd say it is.
All I am saying is that you should think yourself, don't be too fooled by media. Just have a proper think, who is to gain. It possible that the people who did this are madmen, but that wouldn't stop Government officials to spin this to an terrorist attack with Al-Qaedaare you implying that this attack was organised by the Government?
That was SIX years ago and crucially before the Irish had a First Minister which "mostly" what they always wanted. They've not got true independence but they've got control over their own country, just like the Scots.slasher13 wrote:Dude it isn't that long ago, The most recent was 2 car bomb for the IRA in 2001, where the BBC news and West london street was attacked, so not going back in time, Don't you remember this? It was quite big news.
Classicromerojpg wrote:If it was they are shit at their jobs as they did a piss poor job.
Well they'd have to be from Asian descent. I thought Al-Qaeda was the name of the terrorist group run by Osama Bin Laden not a freaking database. True many of the attacks could be from people inspired by Bin Laden but I'd still say that makes it Al-Qaeda related.Mmm the thing is, any terrorist attacks can be related to Al-Qaeda
Yup, but so was 9/11, why is it we focus on that one event. Plus BBC news 24 and Sky when talking about this, they give the impression that this is the 1st car bomb that we have experienced, even in that BBC website link I gave you, my reason was that we have had this in the past with the IRA, so it is nothing new.bradavon wrote:That was SIX years ago and crucially before the Irish had a First Minister which "mostly" what they always wanted. They've not got true independence but they've got control over their own country, just like the Scots.
That did make me chuckle as wellClassicromerojpg wrote:If it was they are shit at their jobs as they did a piss poor job.
Actually the CIA are the ones who actually formed that name, due to Al-Qaeda meaning database. It simply a database of terrorist. There is this great documentary which the BBC did, which is called The Power of Nightmare, it is on the archive website, check it out.Well they'd have to be from Asian descent. I thought Al-Qaeda was the name of the terrorist group run by Osama Bin Laden not a freaking database. True many of the attacks could be from people inspired by Bin Laden but I'd still say that makes it Al-Qaeda related.
Indeed, that what I say as well, we still don't know who attacked, yet the media are pointing to Al-Qaeda, Even if you look at the News of the world paper, just take a look at this: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/leader_0107.shtmlAnyway I don't get what it really matters, terrorists are terrorists. The IRA were no different before they gave up their fighting. Today Northern Ireland literally has ex-IRA men in control of the country.
If the average job reads this, then firstly believe even though it hasn't been proven it was Al-Qaeda, and we should give up some of our rights.Whatever the police and security services require — including extended periods of detention for interrogation — must be granted without delay.
Yup exactly, my thoughts as wellMad man who're from Asian descent attacking in the same way Al-Qaeda do, pretty coincidental don't you think? I do think though to just label them as "Asians who're from Al-Qaeda" doesn't tell us much. Asia's an enormous place.
Checkout Power of Nightmare documentary, it is not a conspiracy theory, it focus on why did they attack (if they did, but that another discussion, lets not bring it here)I still don't really know wht Al-Qaeda attacked in 9/11 in the first place, what as the root cause??? Even the IRA had a valid point, it's just their methods were completely wrong.
I'm just saying I wouldn't jump to conclusions until the government starts talking about removing our rights.If the average job reads this, then firstly believe even though it hasn't been proven it was Al-Qaeda, and we should give up some of our rights.
It's been connected to the London bombs by Police. We don't know if it's Al Qaeda yet. But the bomb types were reportedly the same as used by insurgants in Iraq. At the very least the suspects are Muslim Asians.slasher13 wrote:Wow I love how the news is really hyping this up, All news media have been saying this is the work of al-Qaeda or a group which involves with them.
So you think this was a government conspiracy AGAIN? Amazing how Muslims never seem to be involved. 9/11? Americans. 7/7? British. Maybe it was a couple of white guys with boot polish on their faces? YOU NEVER KNOW.............One thing to add to this, is that Gordon Brown couldn't have passed the bill which was to detained terrorist suspect for 90days, 2 times it got rejected, now after this what is the chances it will be rejected. None, its going to get passed!! Pretty coincidence if you ask me. Again in a fear of a supposed terrorist attack, the public are scared, and will look to the state for protection. The state will give protection, but only if they surrender part of their freedom.
The IRA were scum but have no reason to bomb us now. At least we knew what they wanted. These scumbags have no real purpose other than to cause mayhem and murder.Hang on, what about the IRA? Nope we have forgotten this now.
The BBC have reported that the suspects are "varying Middle Eastern nationalities."It's been connected to the London bombs by Police. We don't know if it's Al Qaeda yet. But the bomb types were reportedly the same as used by insurgants in Iraq. At the very least the suspects are Muslim Asians.
LOL... We are still in the dark regarding this, Just looks as some of the evidences regarding 9/11 or 7/7, or even lack of evidences (9/11 metals was taken away and scrapped and placed in other countries, unheard of in a crime scene investigation).So you think this was a government conspiracy AGAIN? Amazing how Muslims never seem to be involved. 9/11? Americans. 7/7? British. Maybe it was a couple of white guys with boot polish on their faces? YOU NEVER KNOW............
Indeed, I'm not saying the IRA did this, I am just saying in the past, Car Bombs have also been employed by the IRA, it is not something that it new to this terrorism!!The IRA were scum but have no reason to bomb us now. At least we knew what they wanted. These scumbags have no real purpose other than to cause mayhem and murder.
Mmm that a bit insulting, especially since none of my discussions was pointed at anyone in this thread, it was mearly my personal thoughts, which I thought we had the freedom to do?, I thought this was a debate, plus poor LostDragon hasn't even posted to this thread, so thats not nice Mark.he spoke more sense in a few sentences than all the defensive guff posted here by Slasher and LD.