Once Upon A Time In China & America R2 Spain Vs Germany

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Once Upon A Time In China & America R2 Spain Vs Germany

Unread postby saltysam » 24 Apr 2009, 22:43

Spanish is pretty worthless as it only has an english dub option and no english subs, german is anamorphic,original language and english subs (though there is no mention of them on the case)

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Unread postby bradavon » 25 Apr 2009, 15:08

I didn't realise Rosamund Kwan was on this. Is it really that bad? As usual dumb as nuts German re-title. I take it the UK DVD is still the best?

Speaking of OUATIC are we ever going to see official DVDs of Parts 4 and 5 anywhere? Are these any good quality?, it says English subs/anamorphic:

Part 4: http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.541 ... etails.htm
Part 5: http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.540 ... etails.htm

Before anyone says, yes I know they're probably bootlegs. If no one is going to release official DVDs, screw them.

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Unread postby Markgway » 25 Apr 2009, 15:33

bradavon wrote:I didn't realise Rosamund Kwan was on this.


Yes, and Salty somehow managed to find unflattering caps.

Is it really that bad?


No, it's reasonable enough - but better if you see the Cantonese-English version. Basically a plot mix of Who Am I? and Shanghai Noon, but made before either (allegedly because Sammo stole Jackie's ideas).

As usual dumb as nuts German re-title.


Unless my eyes deceive me the title on the German menu is correct.

I take it the UK DVD is still the best?


It's letterboxed though IIRC.
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Unread postby HungFist » 25 Apr 2009, 16:22

bradavon wrote:Speaking of OUATIC are we ever going to see official DVDs of Parts 4 and 5 anywhere?


HK Video released parts 3-6 a million years ago.

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Unread postby chenlung » 25 Apr 2009, 17:06

HKVideo released the entire 1-6 I think.

I think your specs on the German release are wrong. The best DVD for English-speaking audiences was released late last year in Germany - new English subtitles, English/Cantonese/Mandarin soundtracks and uncut 2:35:1 anamorphic progressive video with extras.

http://www.ofdb.de/film/4943,Once-Upon-a-Time-in-China-&-America
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Unread postby bradavon » 25 Apr 2009, 17:37

Markgway wrote:No, it's reasonable enough - but better if you see the Cantonese-English version. Basically a plot mix of Who Am I? and Shanghai Noon, but made before either (allegedly because Sammo stole Jackie's ideas).

Thanks. I heard that too.

Markgway wrote:It's letterboxed though IIRC.

True but at least it has English subs and the original language.

HungFist wrote:HK Video released parts 3-6 a million years ago.

I didn't know that. I wonder why no American or UK distributor has picked them up.

chenlung wrote:I think your specs on the German release are wrong. The best DVD for English-speaking audiences was released late last year in Germany - new English subtitles, English/Cantonese/Mandarin soundtracks and uncut 2:35:1 anamorphic progressive video with extras.

Is it any good?

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Unread postby HungFist » 25 Apr 2009, 17:58

chenlung wrote:HKVideo released the entire 1-6 I think


Studio Canal released 1 and 2.

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Unread postby chenlung » 25 Apr 2009, 18:14

Is it any good?

I'm yet to receive it myself, but those specs should define it's worth :lol: .

Thanks for the correction HungFist.
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Unread postby saltysam » 25 Apr 2009, 18:55

chenlung wrote:HKVideo released the entire 1-6 I think.

I think your specs on the German release are wrong. The best DVD for English-speaking audiences was released late last year in Germany - new English subtitles, English/Cantonese/Mandarin soundtracks and uncut 2:35:1 anamorphic progressive video with extras.

http://www.ofdb.de/film/4943,Once-Upon-a-Time-in-China-&-America
that's the one i've got.don't know how i missed the fact it had english subs,thought it was german only :?

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Unread postby saltysam » 25 Apr 2009, 19:12

saltysam wrote:
chenlung wrote:HKVideo released the entire 1-6 I think.

I think your specs on the German release are wrong. The best DVD for English-speaking audiences was released late last year in Germany - new English subtitles, English/Cantonese/Mandarin soundtracks and uncut 2:35:1 anamorphic progressive video with extras.

http://www.ofdb.de/film/4943,Once-Upon-a-Time-in-China-&-America
that's the one i've got.don't know how i missed the fact it had english subs,thought it was german only :? it was sent to me by mistake,i ordered a blu-ray.

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Unread postby chenlung » 25 Apr 2009, 19:15

saltysam wrote: that's the one i've got.don't know how i missed the fact it had english subs,thought it was german only :?

I think you confused it with another movie :D ?

Could you update your first post so people know about this version?

BTW, the Blu-Ray of this and 'Fist Of Legend' are upconverts from SD (!!!)
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Unread postby grim_tales » 25 Apr 2009, 19:37

How does the German FoL DVD compare to the DD?

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Unread postby chenlung » 25 Apr 2009, 19:42

grim_tales wrote:How does the German FoL DVD compare to the DD?

It's preferred because it's the HK version and probably better quality. DD's extras are another thing to consider though.
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Unread postby bradavon » 25 Apr 2009, 22:04

saltysam wrote:that's the one i've got.don't know how i missed the fact it had english subs,thought it was german only :?

Don't you check out the audio/subs menus? I always do. It looks like it has the original audio too.

chenlung wrote:BTW, the Blu-Ray of this and 'Fist Of Legend' are upconverts from SD (!!!)

What! Have they released any other BDs or are they all Upscaled SD transfers?

chenlung wrote:It's preferred because it's the HK version and probably better quality. DD's extras are another thing to consider though.

There's not much cut in the USA DVD is there? The German DVD is bound to cost loads more.

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Unread postby chenlung » 25 Apr 2009, 23:11

This film has a special case of languages: The Mandarin soundtrack has real voices for some of the cast (Jet Li, Patrick Lung), whilst Cantonese matches others (Richard Ng).

Listen to both.
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Unread postby saltysam » 26 Apr 2009, 00:07

bradavon wrote:Don't you check out the audio/subs menus? I always do. It looks like it has the original audio too.

the disc was sent to me in error.a cursory look at the specs on the case led me to wrongly believe it had english dub only.if other members of this board had knowledge a decent version of this movie had been released why couldn't they have posted the info? ChenLung i'm looking at you :wink: :twisted:

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Unread postby bradavon » 26 Apr 2009, 12:46

I have to ask, what were they supposed to be sending you?

Agreed, I hate it when members keep information back, either through presuming it's already known or laziness.

I take it Cantonese is the original language? I tend to listen to only one soundtrack. Like Seven Swords. I listened to Mandarin despite some of the actors having their actual voice on the Cantonese dub.

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Unread postby grim_tales » 26 Apr 2009, 12:58

Chenlung is the German FoL out yet? I just read it mentioned on the DD thread as that was the preferred version.
I'd rather have the full version :)
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Unread postby chenlung » 26 Apr 2009, 13:29

I posted a few places that the film was out on a great DVD :). Tell you what, I'll post a German releases thread here sometime and keep us updated :). Cantonese is the original language, but I still recommend listening to it in Mandarin as well as half of the cast speak in their language (Richard Ng is always speaking Cantonese in either track). A hybrid track retaining all the actor's voices would be interesting!

German FOL is out.
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Unread postby saltysam » 26 Apr 2009, 14:47

bradavon wrote:I have to ask, what were they supposed to be sending you?

The blu-ray of the same movie.

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Unread postby bradavon » 26 Apr 2009, 15:07

Probably no loss, if it's really just Upscaled SD.

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Unread postby saltysam » 26 Apr 2009, 15:13

they are sending me the blu-ray and i don't have to return the dvd :)
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Unread postby chenlung » 26 Apr 2009, 15:22

saltysam wrote:
bradavon wrote:I have to ask, what were they supposed to be sending you?

The blu-ray of the same movie.

I suppose it's just as well you got the SD one then. :lol:

Could you update your first post to correct the German DVD details, please?
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Unread postby bradavon » 26 Apr 2009, 15:30

saltysam wrote:they are sending me the blu-ray and i don't have to return the dvd :)

That's weird. Post if it really is an Upscaled SD and/or if it still looks any better.

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Unread postby Markgway » 26 Apr 2009, 18:48

Rosamund Kwan also speaks Cantonese.
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