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The Postman Fights Back R2HKL vs R1FOX

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 17:52
by tom2681
WARNING: those screencaps can't tell the whole story.
Please read the conclusion before you buy the FOX disc.


HKL:
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FOX:
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HKL:
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FOX:
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HKL:
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FOX:
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HKL:
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FOX:
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The HKL is an appauling DVD, make no mistake.
It's blurry, horizontally stretched, the colours look weird and the sound is totally muffled.

But the FOX is even worse. It suffers from a heavy flickering effect (obviously not visible in the screencaps) in dark scenes, which makes it almost unwatchable.

HKL's Media Asia print does not have this problem.

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:02
by Markgway
Fox's mono audio is vastly superior too, though. The HKL's 5.1 has zero impact and is a major reason for my switching.

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:03
by tom2681
Yep, that's the dilemna.

Do you want bad sound or bad picture ? :)

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:07
by Markgway
Well, if HKL had a good picture, I'd agree, but I thought the Fox looked better when I checked both (grainy, but sharper). I must confess I didn't specifically search out dark scenes though. Neither is great, but the Fox only cost me a couple of quid, and the HKL audio is K-rap.

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:17
by Ivan Drago
The HKL disc is awful. The sound on both languages is muffled beyond belief and the commentary is redundant. The Joy Sales disc does not have Cantonese mono but rather a 2.0 version of the remix. Get the Fox

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:41
by Markgway
Yeah, it's odd that the Fox has original mono, whilst the JS has a downmix.

Proves one should never make assumptions about specs.

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:44
by Ivan Drago
I must admit I'm glad Joy Sales found out with a title avaliable elsewhere in mono rather than a title for which this would have been the only release

HK Digital

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 21:55
by chenlung
John Charles' review at HK Digital (http://www.dighkmovies.com/v5/256/256a.html) made some very interesting comments about the audio mainly (and of course the flickering of the image).

:|

Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 22:21
by bradavon
I'd say even based on your captures the HKL wins and tbh most HKL 5.1 tracks are at least respectful (Brad dons flame proof jacket).

Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 00:12
by Ivan Drago
The HKL 5.1 track is awful. It's muffled, got a weird echo effect and sounds awful. I'm not sure why both the Cantonese and English dub both sound like this - botched faux surround effect? Get the Fox

Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 01:13
by Markgway
This option is preferable, though there are spots where a Mandarin track from some other movie can be heard faintly on the right channel.
WTF???

Mega Star's Fist of Fury had this bizarre problem.

Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 11:28
by Ivan Drago
I've heard DVDs where there's a radio station playing in the background of the audio

Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 15:40
by bradavon
:D

Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 15:49
by Markgway
Only on bootlegs for me.

Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 12:56
by Ivan Drago
Markgway wrote:Only on bootlegs for me.
Well, these were Eastern Heroes DVDs!

Posted: 26 Nov 2006, 20:07
by Markgway
As I said.......... :wink:

Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 01:12
by EvaUnit02
You tried watching the Fox in 480i, Tom?

Posted: 27 Nov 2006, 01:48
by tom2681
Eva wrote:tried watching the Fox in 480i, Tom?
No, 480p. Why do you ask ? :?:
The Fox is progressive, so the flickering has nothing to do with interlacing IMO.