007: Moonraker - UK R2 (SE) vs UK R2 (UE) vs UK TV (ITV1)
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007: Moonraker - UK R2 (SE) vs UK R2 (UE) vs UK TV (ITV1)
Now this film is not regarded as fan favourite mainly because Bond goes into space and some of the lines of dialogue is cheesier than Mature English Chedder.
On certain shots I have put in some caps from a direct digital recording of ITV1's print of Moonraker from a while back so I am not sure if they have gotten a new print since then but I doubt it very much, if anything the quality would be worse as digital TV's bitrate seems to be worse these days.
Before you ask why its only on the later shots its because I only recorded certain bits of it and not the whole film
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
Overall the UE does look better thanks to better encoding and less grain though it is a bit concerning that on some shots there is clearly more detail on the SE, also the TV print is not too bad either albeit probably the wrong colours because of an older print.
Notice that the end credits is darker on the UE than the rest, it is very evident that a different print is used for the end credits on the UE DVD as on the SE, the credits is on a continuous scroll, where as on the UE, near the end the "Filmed in Panavision" and "Dolby Stereo" comes up on its own for a few seconds, then fades out and the rest of it continues to scroll up.
Again though the credits sequence has been squashed, most evident in the shot of Q in the office as that is right at the end of the titles sequence and on the UE they did not lift off the squashing until the next shot.
On certain shots I have put in some caps from a direct digital recording of ITV1's print of Moonraker from a while back so I am not sure if they have gotten a new print since then but I doubt it very much, if anything the quality would be worse as digital TV's bitrate seems to be worse these days.
Before you ask why its only on the later shots its because I only recorded certain bits of it and not the whole film
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
ITV1
R2 SE
R2 UE
Overall the UE does look better thanks to better encoding and less grain though it is a bit concerning that on some shots there is clearly more detail on the SE, also the TV print is not too bad either albeit probably the wrong colours because of an older print.
Notice that the end credits is darker on the UE than the rest, it is very evident that a different print is used for the end credits on the UE DVD as on the SE, the credits is on a continuous scroll, where as on the UE, near the end the "Filmed in Panavision" and "Dolby Stereo" comes up on its own for a few seconds, then fades out and the rest of it continues to scroll up.
Again though the credits sequence has been squashed, most evident in the shot of Q in the office as that is right at the end of the titles sequence and on the UE they did not lift off the squashing until the next shot.
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Yep, I've seen it. Good work.MLAM wrote:I think it would get the final nod on whats better,Shaken, Not Stirred wrote:I'd say the UE looks much better.
P.S have you not seen the Diamonds are Forever comparison yet?
And, if no one else has any other requests, could you possibly do Goldfinger, The Man with the Golden Gun, or The Living Daylights?
Thanks again.
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The whole saga would be great in fact...Shaken, Not Stirred wrote:
And, if no one else has any other requests, could you possibly do Goldfinger, The Man with the Golden Gun, or The Living Daylights?
Thanks again.
About Moonraker, UE's new transfer looks much better...but it's one of the worst Bond movies with TMWTGG and AVTAK.
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On the UE, the credits were squeezed rather than windowboxing and shot 3 is what the credits dissolve to, so the squeezing is there. Personally, I prefer the SE
Interestingly, I picked up the novelisation of Moonraker from a second hand book store. It's written by Christopher Wood, who wrote the screenplay, but it's a far superior piece of work, genuinly gripping and powerful. Furthermore, the key flaws present in the film are not there: Jaws in the free-fall scene, Jaws midget girlfriend, the 'Bondola', Bond's "Play it again Sam' quip, the re-entry line etc
I'd be interested to know if this cracking piece of literature was what Wood had in mind before the producers and director set to work or whether he watched the completed film sober and thought "Dear God, what have I done?" Had the film resembled the novelisation, it'd be one of the best Bonds
Interestingly, I picked up the novelisation of Moonraker from a second hand book store. It's written by Christopher Wood, who wrote the screenplay, but it's a far superior piece of work, genuinly gripping and powerful. Furthermore, the key flaws present in the film are not there: Jaws in the free-fall scene, Jaws midget girlfriend, the 'Bondola', Bond's "Play it again Sam' quip, the re-entry line etc
I'd be interested to know if this cracking piece of literature was what Wood had in mind before the producers and director set to work or whether he watched the completed film sober and thought "Dear God, what have I done?" Had the film resembled the novelisation, it'd be one of the best Bonds
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It's the adaptation of the film's screenplay by its author, Christopher Wood. Fleming's novel is quite different, with Hugo Drax a Nazi war criminal planning to launch a nuclear bomb on LondonShaken, Not Stirred wrote:Moonraker was written by Ian Fleming. At least the original is. What copy of Moonraker do you have?
Wood also novelised The Spy Who Loved Me, which shares no similarities with the Fleming novel due to a contract clause.
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