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Bullet in the Head: R2 UK vs R0 HK vs R2 FR vs R2 Nordic

Posted: 27 May 2006, 13:39
by EvaUnit02
R2UK HKL:
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R0HK IVL:
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R2F HK Video:
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R2 Nordic Scanbox:

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R2UK HKL:
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R0HK IVL:
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R2F HK Video:
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R2 Nordic Scanbox:

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R2UK HKL:
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R0HK IVL:
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R2F HK Video:
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R2 Nordic Scanbox:

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R2UK HKL:
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R0HK IVL:
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R2F HK Video:
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R2 Nordic Scanbox:

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R2UK HKL:
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R0HK IVL:
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R2F HK Video:
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R2 Nordic Scanbox:

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Posted: 27 May 2006, 13:48
by grim_tales
The first shot looks about the same IMO.
The 2nd IVL shot looks awful, look how bright and pink it is.
The 3rd looks more natural (?) on the IVL but HKL colours are more pleasing.

HKL wins IMHO :)

Posted: 27 May 2006, 13:50
by Markgway
1 - Draw. (Virtually identical)
2 - HKL. (IVL is awfully pink)
3 - HKL. (Tricky this, because they look so different. IVL's brightness reveals more detail - see Waise's back - but the colour has more depth in the HKL and looks right. You can smell the odorous green water). :D
4 - HKL (IVL's contrast is too high. Bright white threatens to overun the screen)
5 - IVL (HKL is just a bit too dark here)

Verdict: HKL. Marginal win.

Posted: 27 May 2006, 14:15
by bradavon
The HKL wins but it does show how inaccurate screen captures can be because here it's a much closer call than the capture comparison Tom posted.

Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 13:11
by tom2681

Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 18:30
by HungFist
Tom, is the mono track completely clean or does it sound a bit harsh at times?

Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 20:09
by tom2681
Haven't watched it yet, so I can't tell you.
As soon as I watch it, you'll be the first to know. :)

Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 06:50
by EvaUnit02
French pics posted. HKL still wins IMO.

Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 14:57
by Markgway
Yeah, still HKL.

Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 20:24
by bradavon
The Frenchie is mostly a mess. What gives?

Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 23:09
by tom2681
The HKL is cropped, dark, and missing colour filters (see cap N°5).

Why do you guys keep saying it's the best ?
Have I landed in Bizarro-Land by mistake ?

Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 23:34
by Markgway
On average HKL is the best. Even though it is a touch too dark.

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 14:25
by gojensen
How can you say the HKVideo is a mess? It looks great, apart from the one indoor shot which is to blue. (It's NOT that blue on film... but for whatever reason I find most French DVDs (of Asian movies) to be a bit blueish...)

HKL is too dark, while the IVL is pretty good, it's too bright in a few scenes though... I haven't watched the whole HKVideo to make up my mind properly re. that release though...

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 16:02
by HungFist
gojensen wrote:but for whatever reason I find most French DVDs (of Asian movies) to be a bit blueish...)
Depends on the company. HKV adds blue tints, Studio Canal removes them...

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 19:01
by Markgway
HKV looks the weakest of the three overall.

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 19:59
by bradavon
@ Mark: Agreed it looks shoddy coming from HK Video.

The HKL is by far the sharpest.
Tom2681 wrote:Why do you guys keep saying it's the best ?
Have I landed in Bizarro-Land by mistake ?
Because it is silly. Yes it's to dark but then the others in some ways look to bright.

The HK Video and IVL both look pretty messy to me. It's that simple.

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 22:08
by gojensen
Explain messy then... because that last shot from HKV looks just sweet :D (my fave image from that flick aswell...)

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 22:35
by bradavon
I'm really lousy at explaining this kind of thing but I'll try. The HKL has noticeably more vibrant colours, especially here:

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The IVL is grain heaven but that last one the IVL looks best. It is too dark but in most shots not to any great extent. Oh and this one looks VHS quality:

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Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 19:29
by gojensen
I took comparison shots from the new Nordic Scanbox John Woo collection box sets; It's a bit soft, but there's no digital enhancing nor any restoration for that matter.

Here ya go... (Note on the heli shot there's some glue across that particular frame... not really noticeable in movie mode though...)
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Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 00:48
by HungFist
Hmm... wow. Those caps sure look colourful... too colourful maybe?

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 01:29
by bradavon
Still an easy one to the HKL, the Nordic is a mess.

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 01:45
by thelostdragon
OK, the chopper shot definitely had coffee or so spilled over before it was digitalized. But from the other shots it definitely looks superior to all the other versions.

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 02:57
by chenlung
I like JC's revamp of 'Thriller' video in the 5th comparison :lol: .

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 03:05
by EvaUnit02
HKL still wins by far.

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 09:23
by gojensen
I don't quite get why people rave so about the HKL? I found it too dark and desaturated (in places)... as for that the Nordic looks good I felt. It's not so soft as the ABT discs - and it's definitely not a mess. I hadn't noticed that there were "dirt" on the frames until I tried to capture that one specific frame.

Personally I can live with a little "film noise" (as opposed to digital noise) as I'm pretty used to that from the cinema. :D Still, I have to watch this on my projector to give a proper "review" of the disc.