Recent HK historical epics...

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Recent HK historical epics...

Unread post by saltysam » 09 Jan 2010, 13:22

Ok Red Cliff has whetted my appetite and i've probably asked this before but are the following worth picking up? i see the uk BD's can be had reasonably.

Empress & The Warriors
Three Kingdoms
Battle Of Wits

already have the hk BD of Warlords and the UK Red Cliff. any others i've missed?
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Unread post by Markgway » 09 Jan 2010, 13:27

Battle of Wits is good, Three Kingdoms is OK.

Haven't seen Empress yet...
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Unread post by Shingster » 10 Jan 2010, 02:17

Three Kingdoms isn't good, also has horribly looped Mandarin dialogue. Batle of Wits is okish, but it has the dubious honour of being the only action film with Sammo on board as action-director I've seen that has dull, edited-to-buggery fight sequences! Both films are completely disposable and unlikely to inspire you to revisit them.

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Unread post by Markgway » 10 Jan 2010, 12:24

Battle of Wits works better as a drama.

Most of these films I wouldn't watch specifically for the action.
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Unread post by bradavon » 10 Jan 2010, 19:43

I'm not sure if fits your critera but Assembly? I've not seen it.

I'd like to get Warlords but the HK BD is still expensive and the UK one is cut loads. I don't mind the odd second being chopped but it's loads.

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Unread post by saltysam » 10 Jan 2010, 19:49

Yeah it was pricey but sometimes in the absence of any decent western release you just have to pay the price.£20 isn't going to bankrupt me.Anyway if Romero shared his secret of amazing bargains with us all we'd be getting any BD we want for less than a tenner every time :lol:
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Unread post by bradavon » 10 Jan 2010, 20:10

Every second :D. I think he gets them from www.bs.com.

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Unread post by thelostdragon » 11 Jan 2010, 01:07

"An Empress and the Warriors" is to me a 2.5/5. It has that dull comedy romance and over-the-top drama in it. To me the film is a mixed bag, as if it doesn't know what it wants to be, because there are also darker themed elements in it.
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Unread post by thelostdragon » 11 Jan 2010, 08:35

You might also be interested in the upcoming film "Confucius" starring Chow Yun-fat.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVUDzsi4t6Y
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Unread post by grim_tales » 11 Jan 2010, 09:19

That looks very well done. Cool! :D
I wonder if someone will dub the actors voices or if CYF will speak his own Mandarin.

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Unread post by bradavon » 11 Jan 2010, 13:34

Didn't he in Curse of the Golden Flower? Which is an historical epic worth seeing.

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Unread post by grim_tales » 11 Jan 2010, 16:15

Yes it is :)
I can't remember BTW, I remember reading in CTHD (OK that was 10 years ago) that his Mandarin wasnt very good.

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Unread post by Gaijin84 » 14 Jan 2010, 16:47

Not so recent, but some good Gong Li ones are "The Emperor and the Assassin" from 1998 and "The Great Conqueror's Concubine (there are two parts) from 1994.
Also Tsui Hark's Seven Swords is decent.

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Unread post by grim_tales » 14 Jan 2010, 17:24

Never heard of "The Great Emperor's Concubine" but yes The Emperor and the Assassin is good and Seven Swords is very good :)

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Unread post by Shingster » 14 Jan 2010, 17:35

grim_tales wrote:The Emperor and the Assassin is good and Seven Swords is very good :)
Good god man, Emperor and the Assassin is sublime and Seven Swords is mediocre as hell!! It's like comparing Shakespeare to High School Musical! :icon_suspect:

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Unread post by bradavon » 14 Jan 2010, 18:58

Seven Swords is okay but it feels heavily cut because it is. 6 out of 10 IMO.

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Unread post by grim_tales » 14 Jan 2010, 19:00

OK Emperor is very good :D It's been a while since I saw it, AFAIK it tells a different version of the same story as Hero.
I enjoyed 7 Swords - shoot me :D

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Unread post by bradavon » 14 Jan 2010, 19:15

What's your gun of preference?

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Unread post by Markgway » 15 Jan 2010, 07:44

Seven Swords was quite good. Not a classic though.
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Unread post by Tutut » 15 Jan 2010, 15:36

Shingster wrote:
grim_tales wrote:The Emperor and the Assassin is good and Seven Swords is very good :)
Good god man, Emperor and the Assassin is sublime and Seven Swords is mediocre as hell!! It's like comparing Shakespeare to High School Musical! :icon_suspect:
Emperor and the Assassin is too much academic, although the acting is pretty good, not moving enough. Seven Swords is a good film, but not as good as I could expect from a big production like this.

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Unread post by Gaijin84 » 20 Jan 2010, 14:30

grim_tales wrote:Never heard of "The Great Emperor's Concubine" but yes The Emperor and the Assassin is good and Seven Swords is very good :)

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I liked Great Conqueror's Concubine quite a bit, but then again any time Gong Li is on the screen I'm captivated. It's a long, long movie (3 hours +) with a good cast, lots of huge battle scenes and conniving mistresses and warlords. Everything you'd want from a historical epic. You can find both parts currently on eBay for a relatively good price.

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